qyliss changed the topic of #spectrum to: A compartmentalized operating system | https://spectrum-os.org/ | Logs: https://logs.spectrum-os.org/spectrum/
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<IdleBot_b5116448> Hm, is UML alive again?
<lejonet> IdleBot_b5116448: UserMode Linux?
<IdleBot_b5116448> Yes
<lejonet> Can't say I've heard anything about it the past 10 or so years, what gave you the hint that it might be alive again?
<IdleBot_b5116448> Debian UML maintainer thanking the upstream developers for their help sorting out the problem with PCAP dependency bump
<Shell> I'm guessing there's technically still work on it (to keep up with other kernel changes?) as it's still in the kernel tree.
<IdleBot_b5116448> Yes, and apparently there is now a bit more than the required minimum
<IdleBot_b5116448> I wonder if we will eventually end up putting something from the BSD family inside the application VMs, as the hardware support is not a problem and diversity of layers should at least be annoying to the attacker
<lejonet> Maybe that is what could be put in the eventual network VMs perhaps?
<IdleBot_b5116448> I guess it is most relevant to Firefox VMs
<lejonet> IdleBot_b5116448: why'd you think so? Because its more likely that browsers will be the attack surface or something more?
<IdleBot_b5116448> Yes, browsers are known to be the main attack surface for mass-production attacks, and the attack surface is large in many senses
<lejonet> Yeah, just wanted to know if there was something more than "just" the attack surface that made you state that :)
<lejonet> Like if there was some type of jailing benefit or such with BSD and firefox
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<qyliss> IdleBot_b5116448: mail.ru has decided I'm sending spam, apparently
<MichaelRaskin> Hmm
<MichaelRaskin> That means I need to log into web interface. Oh pity
<MichaelRaskin> Indeed one message went to spam, let's see if marking it not spam helps
<qyliss> I'm trying to fill in a form, but it's in Russian so we'll see if I manage to do the right thing
<qyliss> I've been thinking about removing the [spectrum-devel] etc prefixes in the subject body so I don't break DKIM
<qyliss> Would also solve hyperfekt's problem
<qyliss> Would anybody miss those?
<qyliss> (I will also need to fix the encoding issues, which I am looking into right now)
<MichaelRaskin> Surprisingly, I do have a keybinding that uses the fact [list-name] exists, but Spectrum has a long way to go before I start caring about that binding in the Spectrum context
<qyliss> MichaelRaskin: do you, by any chance, speak Russian?
<MichaelRaskin> Indeed I do (which is why mail.ru is in the list of mailservers I use for single-topic boxes)
<qyliss> Could you by any chance tell me what I need to do here? https://help.mail.ru/notspam-support/id
<qyliss> One of the form fields in English is just "Please specify", but I have no idea what to specify
<MichaelRaskin> Erm. There is no Russian text anyway, this seems to be a freeform message field, though
<MichaelRaskin> Could you give me error code and message ID?
<MichaelRaskin> I will try to fill the form in Russian just in case
<qyliss> Sure, I'll PM
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<hyperfekt> qyliss: Well, idk if I would call it a problem. The last two haven't been landing in spam, I don't know if that is due to me opening them and some smarts on Protonmail's side, or some changed settings from you.