<pie_>
so, it bothers me that i always have to lose a ton of application state when i reboot, i dont really know where spectrum is in relation to this, and i havent been keeping up;
<pie_>
wouldit be possible to "hibernate" applications, or use CRIU or something? (i have no idea how well criu works in practice, but im trying to look at it again because i let my battery run out after like two months again...)
<pie_>
criu sounds cool but the fact that ive never seen it used anywhere is sketchy
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<MichaelRaskin>
pie: well, we could actually do all-VM suspend
<MichaelRaskin>
Which is of course a problem re: Wayland socket state.
<MichaelRaskin>
And also I guess CrosVM doesn't support VM suspend
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<MichaelRaskin>
Qemu VM suspend with SPICE or VNC into VM would work just fine
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<qyliss>
I think it's probably not possible with Wayland sockets, yeah, and I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't cause problems in other weird ways down the line
<qyliss>
Certainly doesn't feel like something it's worth going out of our way to pursue
<qyliss>
I encourage you to use and create applications that are less stateful :)
<qyliss>
(Or that can save their own state)
<puck>
i mean, i'm building a mechanism that allows for breaking the connection between the compositor and wayland
<puck>
:p
<qyliss>
oh
<qyliss>
that's neat
<qyliss>
I look forward to seeing what comes of that
<puck>
my current plan is basically "xpra, but wayland, and better" -- but using more efficient protocols between e.g. a vm and a host is on the table
<puck>
so it should be able to re-connect, and still use virtio-wl efficiencies